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I am making a trip to the florida keys soon and am new to shark fishing. I am looking for a good spinning set upbecause i am unable to kayak baits out. I was thinking...
- a Fin-Nor OFS 95 - can hold 600 yds of 100lb braid and has drag up to 60 lbs
- an ocean master OM12SS - 12 ft., 2 piece, surf rod, it says it can handle 20-50 lb line
-QUESTION- could i put heavier line on it? Would it stand up to this heavier line?
- 65 lb braid (not sure what kind or if this is the correct lb test needed?)

Any comments or suggestions of new gear would be greatly appreciated
Will this gear be sufficient for surf casting for sharks?


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Topic starter Posted : 06/13/2012 12:07 am
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50 lb would be more then enough.

I fish 30 lb braid on casted gear.. a pflugear meadalist 6060 and penn sargus 6000. with just 20 lbs of drag it makes it very fun and interesting. Any shark 6' and under I'm confident in landing.

I would load the fin or up with 50 lb hollow. top with a 60 lb mono top shot. 500 yards braid and the rest mono.

MAke a castable leader like this.

6' of 1/32 cable crimped to a 350 lb swivle. on the other end I have a stopper then a 4 oz weight and a stopper above it to hold in place. then about 1 1/2 feet down from the weight I have a 7/0 circle hook. It's cheap and can take a lot of abuse. With a 7' rod I can cast almost 50 yards with a chunk of bait. Good luck


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Posted : 06/13/2012 6:04 am
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So with the topshot...im unsure of how to do that, because i fished mostly freshwater before. Do i put the mono on after the braid? What kind of knot?


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Topic starter Posted : 06/13/2012 9:26 am
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When you are attaching your top shot I would use a uni to uni knot like this one.. http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/double-uni-knot/

This is the knot that I always use when connecting my mono to braid and it has never failed me yet. With the reel that you are using you should be able to put on at least 50 or so yards of 50lb mono top shot. Hope this helps answer your question.


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Posted : 06/13/2012 10:04 am
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And yes you put it on after the braid.


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Posted : 06/13/2012 10:05 am
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Ok thanks!
What is the reason for the mono topshot? I have seen many people talking about this online but never understood the purpose...?
Does anyone have any comments on the gear i suggested???
Does it seem like a good setup???


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Topic starter Posted : 06/13/2012 9:17 pm
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The reason that I use heavy mono top shot is abrasion resistance. When you are fishing with braid you can get cut off a lot easier than when you use mono. The set up you have sounds good to me!


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Posted : 06/13/2012 9:31 pm
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Doesnt braid have better abbraision resistance than mono?
And i have also heard of people using mono as "backing" on a reel...any comments or knowledge of that?
And also is a 12 ft. rod necessary or should i go with a smaller rod?


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Topic starter Posted : 06/13/2012 9:50 pm
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not sure where you got 600yds of 100lb braid, mine holds about 500 of 65....
but thats still a good setup that will catch some nice sharks if you fight em right
I don't think you need heavier line, 65 is plenty strong for a spinner


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Posted : 06/13/2012 9:58 pm
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Ya i dont know where i got that from...thought it said that on bass pro website

Fishinfool: so do you put any mono on yours or just straight braid?


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Topic starter Posted : 06/13/2012 10:26 pm
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Ya i dont know where i got that from...thought it said that on bass pro website

Fishinfool: so do you put any mono on yours or just straight braid?

Straight 65lb diamond braid, iv'e never had a problem with it so far


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Posted : 06/14/2012 12:29 am
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- a Fin-Nor OFS 95 - can hold 600 yds of 100lb braid and has drag up to 60 lbs
- an ocean master OM12SS - 12 ft., 2 piece, surf rod, it says it can handle 20-50 lb line
-QUESTION- could i put heavier line on it? Would it stand up to this heavier line?
- 65 lb braid (not sure what kind or if this is the correct lb test needed?)

IMO the OFS 95 best spinning reel there is for sharks.

the OM 12 is a beast yes it will hold heavier line.

The FinNor holds a lot of line and has the drag to back it, there is no reason why you should not go with at least 80lb braid to 80lb top shot.

I would do 600 yards of Sufix 832 to a rod length shock leader of 130lb mono. This will give you the ability to cast chunk baits pretty far and also give you nice abrasion resistances from a tail whips.

Set up like that and you have your self a very nice set up which can catch some big fish.


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Posted : 06/14/2012 6:26 am
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Oh... and connecting the 130lb mono to the 80lb I use a 5 foot piece of 130lb hollow core braid, works like a Chinese finger trap.

Let me know if you need more details on that. It is the smallest strongest connection there is.


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Posted : 06/14/2012 6:36 am
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Thank you!
And yes could you explain how to connect the 130 mono to the 80 braid? Im unsure of how to do that.
And is there a reason why not to use 65 lb braid? Because there is only 60 lbs or drag and im not going to use it all anyways


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Topic starter Posted : 06/14/2012 1:55 pm
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Thank you!
And yes could you explain how to connect the 130 mono to the 80 braid? Im unsure of how to do that.
And is there a reason why not to use 65 lb braid? Because there is only 60 lbs or drag and im not going to use it all anyways

Main reason is abrasion the 80-100lb braid will last you much longer and if you do hook something big you will have a better shot landing it in good time. With the rod you chose max drag I would put on that thing in fishing position would be 30lbs and trust me thats A LOT! with a 12 foot rod. Basic rule of thumb for line rating, is use 1/3 the lines breaking strength when setting drags...so if you pull 30 lbs of drag you should use 90lb line, make sense?

Just a warning. pulling 30lbs of drag on the OM 12 is more then its designed to do, so please no the limits of your gear. One thing you can always do is point the rod at the fish, this will take the extreme pressure bend off the rod and load the reel with pressure its designed for. 8-)

Now here is the tutorial on solid braid to mono splice. With casting shock leader you only need a 4-5' foot peice of hollow core.

Some like solid braid over hollow core braid but still need to connect a mono top shot. i.e If you need to cast a top shot, braid to mono knots can be a real pain. If you just hate the idea of tying a knot in the middle of your line heres the option.

I take a 10-12 foot piece of jerry brown hollow core line and use it as the connection sleeve. Depending on the application but for example I will use 130 lb class.

First thing you need is the right tools. 1 hollow inline splicing needle for the size of your line. .. if your splicing 130lb mono the 130lb splicing needle works just fine. *note* the 150lb needle is extremely difficult to splice 130lb hollow, the needles outer diameter is to big. http://www.sharkoutlet.com/ to get small spools of hollow core and the needles.

First thing I do is put a tapper on the tag end of the mono you are splicing in.

What this does is make the hollow core have better bite on the mono. The hollow core needs to be pulled tight and the faster it can get small the harder it bites.

Now push the mono up into you splicing needle and insert the mono up in the hollow braid about 5-6 feet.

After you get to the 6 foot mark just push the needle out the side of the hollow braid and work the mono back down so its all inside the braid.

Now for the solid braid. I use a store bought yarn needles for this. I take the solid braid thru the yard needle and double the braid back on itself creating a big loop. It should be about 6 feet long.

now insert the solid braid up in the hollow about 6 feet. You can butt the solid braid right up to the mono, but dont worry if there is space between it wont hurt a thing.

Once the yard needle is out take some snips and clip the end of the needle off so you can get the braid out.

For the last step you need to serve the tag ends of the hollow braid. I use a fly bobbin with wax thread but basic over hand knot or nail knots will work. You only need to do about and inch of the hollow tag, just serve right to the end of the hollow braid. If you serve on the hollow and right over onto the mono it will come undone. I used to serve over the whole connection spot 1inch on the hollow and one inch on the mono or solid braid but... when the mono stretches it gets smaller so it needs to pull back some and you cant stop it. What happens is it separates the serve causing it to come unraveled and weak. Just FYI even with out the severe it will not slip out. The serve is just to hold the tag ends of the braid from coming unraveled and help aid in the splice.



Last step is rub a little bit of glue on the serve to aid in it getting frayed up. This is my favorite glue

I use this connection for small windons on casted gear with 50lb solid braid and 60lb mono. the 130lb hollow works fine and i only use a little 3 foot piece of hollow core.
I use this when making a heavy long windon like adding a section of 2 or 300lb mono on my top shot when fishing where abrasions are killer.
this connection also works on bad spots in your line. i.e. you just spooled a new top shot on your reel but the first drop you did a little section got tore up bad. Cut the bad section out and splice it back together with this.

It works and its strong. You might get nervous when you see it come off the reel but after some time of zero failures you will be 100% confident.


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