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william
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This subject has been debated many times and there are many different opinions and I respect them all but my take based on fighting massive hammerhead sharks is a little different from most.From my personal expierience fighting the really big sharks sitting on the sand is the easiest way to subdue a shark while using the least amount of energy. For catching most medium to large sharks the stand-up style will work just fine since the fight is usually over within 45 minutes and the equipment will not have to be pushed to the extreme however the giant hammers and such require that the angler save himself as much as possible.At almost 50 years old for me the bottom line is conserving my energy throughout the fight with a big shark that can take hours to subdue.

If you study the evolution of sport fishing the way I have you can see how the equipment we use today came to be.Better equipment and techniques have made things easier for anglers over the last 80 years.Reels have greatly improved ,lines to fish have improved,rods and there guides have improved.The tuna tower was invented by fisherman targeting giant bluefin tuna as they swam over the flats of Bimini and Cat cay(Bahamas) .The first tuna towers were ladders tied off the roof of boats to get a high vantage point from which to spot the giant tuna as they swam across the flats usually in May of every year.

The point is this the why try and improve on what has already been developed and proven.Case in point 'the fighting chair'.If i could lug a fighting chair with wheels to the beach every time I fish for sharks i would because there is no easier way to fight a large fish exerting lots of pressure on me.The longest fights ever recorded in fishing history(up to 36 hours) were made made possible by fighting chair---NO ONE ALIVE COULD DO THAT WHILE STANDING UP-even with the best bucket,kidney ,or shoulder harness.

The human legs have the largest muscles on the body and they take lots of oxygen to operate so why get them involved when fighting a VERY LARGE shark and wear yourself out ? You can fight a good sized shark while standing using a gimbal belt and harness combination -just about anyone can catch a big shark using that technique if the fight is fairly short- it's a piece of cake; however if it's a long battle you are asking to get beat up,,,,,if it's a monster hammer YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER FROM BEING DRAGGED IN AND DROWNED.The amount pressure exerted on the body and the pulling power of a giant hammer has to be felt to be understood-THESE FISH HAVE TEN TIMES THE STRENGTH OF THE STRONGEST MAN ALIVE,so don't think you can dance standing up while fighting one.Using 200 lb test or more very few teams have actually caught monster hammers while standing up,many more have had close calls with anglers knocked down and dragged towards to beach.In either case catching these PRIZED MONSTER HAMMERS is never an easy task --if it was everyone would be doing it and only two anglers have done it this year 12 foot 10 inches (Boca Grande during the BHC)and 12 foot 6 inches (Venice Pier.) NO ONE HAS HIT 13 FEET OR BEYOND (as of yet)IN 2011.Some will say you can hold on to your buddy's handles at the back of the harness but why should it require two people to fight one shark?Your buddy can better assist you by shining a spotlight,getting the tail rope,putting on gloves,bringing you water etc,etc,etc.I believe the in order to conserve much needed energy a very large shark can better be subdued while sitting in the sand.When you stick that rod butt in the sand and use a shoulder harness you are using the best of what has already been invented "THE FIGHTING CHAIR".

At this point in the evolution of our sport (in my opinion) the best way to fight very large sharks from a beach is to use the sitting down method using a rod (6 to 8 ft tops) with some backbone but not stiff with a longer then normal rod butt.Remember the job of the rod is to act like a spring to exert pressure and help get the shark in a very stiff rod that does not bend will hurt the angler.The long rods on the beach can work against the angler also .When a monster hammer is hooked a heavy 10 foot rod exerts too much pressure on the angler at a higher point whereas a shorter rod with a good solid bend exerts the pressure at a lower more manageable point.When you lock down the drag on a Giant Hammer and a 10 foot rod you cannot lift that rod to bend it unless you are extremely strong.The pressure exerted as the Giant Hammer runs and at the speed they achieve makes it virtually impossible to LOCK DOWN and BEND and HOLD ON to a rod for a long time unless the rod is SHORTER and the gear is LIGHTER. SUPERMAN is for the movies he's not on the beach.

The only drawback is that after a short while the reel is almost on your lap and you have to reinsert the butt in a new hole.in either case you have to move the butt into a new hole after every 10 minutes or so because you dig a deep hole with the back and forth motion as you pump the rod back and forth but at least you are conserving your energy for the long haul

here is link showing how some Australians fight there sharks

http://bluemako.customer.netspace.net.a ... 0chair.htm


SOUTH FLORIDA SHARK CLUB -President SFSC-Founding Member est 1983 SFSC-Website Administrator BIG HAMMER SHARK TOURNAMENT -Founder Rene Memorial Sharkathon -Founder NMFS Shark Tagger

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Topic starter Posted : 07/19/2011 11:54 am
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the 12 6 hammer from sharkies was done on a 14 spooled with 100lb on a ten foot harnell. with out ever siting down.


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Posted : 07/19/2011 5:51 pm
william
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the 12 6 hammer from sharkies was done on a 14 spooled with 100lb on a ten foot harnell. with out ever siting down.

Hey bud the point was not that those two hammers were caught sitting down but that massive hammers are difficult to catch from land and in my opinion easier to do on the beach while sitting on your backside conserving energy used by the large muscles of the legs.


SOUTH FLORIDA SHARK CLUB -President SFSC-Founding Member est 1983 SFSC-Website Administrator BIG HAMMER SHARK TOURNAMENT -Founder Rene Memorial Sharkathon -Founder NMFS Shark Tagger

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Topic starter Posted : 07/20/2011 9:44 pm
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the 12 6 hammer from sharkies was done on a 14 spooled with 100lb on a ten foot harnell. with out ever siting down.

On a pier or bridge you don't have to sit. You lay that rod on the rail and go to work. Nice catch!!!!


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Posted : 07/21/2011 6:50 pm
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the 12 6 hammer from sharkies was done on a 14 spooled with 100lb on a ten foot harnell. with out ever siting down.

Anthony, I was there, I'm pretty sure it was a 7 foot sam scott.


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Posted : 08/12/2011 8:01 am
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The 10/0 is on the Sam Scott 14/0 is on a harnell that is now cut down.


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Posted : 08/12/2011 3:32 pm
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That fighting chair thing is A great "IDEA"!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o 8-)


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Posted : 08/12/2011 7:32 pm
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he is right, my goal
this summer was to get my massive hammer head of a beach and i had a hook up that i fought for almost 2 hours when he spat hook, after about an hour of having my reel on lock down (on a 50TRX) i couldent feel my legs.

so what im trying to say is the man has a valid point


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Posted : 08/20/2011 4:57 am
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there have been MANY times where 30 mins into fighting a shark i cant feel my legs any longer .. they literally almost give out from all the walking/ running up an over other lines .. when i can... i sit my ass in the sand to rest my legs a bit! A beach fighting chair would be amazing!


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Posted : 08/20/2011 11:09 am
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mal they sell beach fighting chairs at wal-mart. there called quad chairs i think just sit in one of those. lol



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Posted : 08/20/2011 12:00 pm
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Ive been plotting and planning on the fighting chair idea for a while now. Would make for a pretty cool project but I just dont want to add to the amount of crazyness I already carry :lol: And I pack light compared to most. I just plop down where I stand and it suits me just fine and dandy. :) IF I CAN EVER GET A RUN! (Been slow for my crew lately.)


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Posted : 08/20/2011 12:08 pm
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As for the beach fighting chair, they sell clamp-able swivel gimbals for beach chairs etc., as for the natural sand fighting chair, the night when me and hammer got our twin tigers this technique was exceptional, JD's tiger fought for over an hour and the 2-3ft rod butt dug into the sand allowed him to let go completely of his outfit and talk on the phone as the big shark stripped drag :lol: , and my 9ft rod worked as a spring when i cranked down and bent the rod completely the pressure of the rod pulled the fish in for me, personally I prefer the luxury of a railing as opposed to a beach, but the natural fighting chair is something to be taken advantage of during long fights


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Posted : 08/20/2011 2:01 pm
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Especially when you do stand up shark fishing like how team "LAKE WORTH SHARKERS"do it in LAKE WORTH and other team members too....."SPARTAN STYLE"!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: 8-)


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Posted : 08/20/2011 2:09 pm
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I agree 100% sitting down saves so much needed energy, especially when using a big senator reel, 80w, or whatever you use. And as mentioned above, after a while your rod butt is dug so deep into the sand, you can take your hands off your rig as the fish pulls heavy drag and give your left arm a rest.


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Posted : 08/27/2011 4:02 pm
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i had the idea of buying a wheelchair and rigging it with a harness and gimbal and when u need to chase the shark down the beach u just have ur buddy push u :lol: :lol:


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Posted : 08/27/2011 4:34 pm
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