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(@rippinlipsoff)
New Member

hi guys,

I just got off of the phone with avet I was talking to them for about and hour or so.On their website it claims the reel holds 2000 yards of 100 lb braid.That is not correct.After and on going converstaion they told me the method they used to come up with the numbers on their website for the apprx yardage.They spooled all of their reels with 20 lb mono.Then then used that number as a general reference.80 lb is equvilent to what lb mono? 20..the 50w holds 2300 yards of 20 lb test so they figure the braid was the same amount. WRONG Mono strectches,therfor packing tighter will allow more line to be put on.The true specs on avets 50 w are very similar that of a penn 9/0.500 yards of 80 lb mono. TO ME THATS NOT A 50W.After the company realized that their calculation were not factored in with mono stretching they appologized me and assured me they would fix the issue on the website.Then they didnt even know JB was mentioned on the website. HOW PATHEDIC lol. anyways, the appologized and since my reel has never touched the water they worked out a deal with me.

550 yards of 100 lb braid PACKED so tight I could barely reel filled my reel about 1/4 of and inch from the crossbars.

550 plus my top shot i was still about 700 yards or so.BUT Im very unhappy I purchased and item expecting it to hold 2000 yards of braid. boy was i surprised.

lol

http://www.avetreels.net/EX_SERIES_REELS.php

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Topic starter Posted : 09/16/2011 12:39 pm
(@scout04)
Estimable Member

I know for a fact that you can put 750yds of 130lb JB hollow core braid and 200yds of 100lb Hi-Seas Grand Slam mono on an Avet 50w because that is exactly what I had on mine. 2000yds of braid on a 50w would be crazy to do to begin with - thats 1 mile plus 240yds. Load it with 130lb braid with a short topshot and fish it hard - the 50w is a beast and puts out the same drag numbers the 80w does - unless your in an area with a lot of junk in the water and need heavy mono topshots the 50w is the perfect beast stopper reel.

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Posted : 09/16/2011 3:20 pm
(@rippinlipsoff)
New Member

I know for a fact that you can put 750yds of 130lb JB hollow core braid and 200yds of 100lb Hi-Seas Grand Slam mono on an Avet 50w because that is exactly what I had on mine. 2000yds of braid on a 50w would be crazy to do to begin with - thats 1 mile plus 240yds. Load it with 130lb braid with a short topshot and fish it hard - the 50w is a beast and puts out the same drag numbers the 80w does - unless your in an area with a lot of junk in the water and need heavy mono topshots the 50w is the perfect beast stopper reel.

Did you check the link out on where they state it holds that kind of line?

Talk about a typo lol

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Topic starter Posted : 09/16/2011 3:55 pm
(@blacktip-hunter)
Prominent Member

You are absolutely right! Braid will always fill less than mono due to the stretch. I have also noticed when surf casting, that light mono casts much better than 50lb braid. It's the packing of the mono (stretch on the spool) that makes that difference. Also, if you don't have that braid on really tight, when you have heavy drag on a big fish, the braid will dig into itself and get caught. I had this happen once and if my buddy wasn't there, I would have been gone! lol

Don't buy a 50 for beach fishing, for a boat it works. For the beach, don't go smaller than an 80w. I owned a 50/80 (70 class) Alutecnos Albacore and I got dumped by a big hammer (locked drag with preset locked too!) and from that moment on, nothing smaller than an 80!

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Posted : 09/16/2011 5:34 pm
(@monoxide)
Noble Member

we fish 50ws on the piers and beaches here and do fine. and land some decent sharks. granted some people put 100+lbs of drag on the fish


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Posted : 09/16/2011 6:33 pm
(@diesel-sharker)
New Member

I have 600 yards of 130lb hollow braid on my 50w's and about 350 yards of 100lb mono on top of that. 950 yards is more than enough line with over 50lbs of drag. This year we landed an 11'10" tiger on one of those 50w's. Handled it like a champ.

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Posted : 09/16/2011 7:23 pm
(@rippinlipsoff)
New Member

You are absolutely right! Braid will always fill less than mono due to the stretch. I have also noticed when surf casting, that light mono casts much better than 50lb braid. It's the packing of the mono (stretch on the spool) that makes that difference. Also, if you don't have that braid on really tight, when you have heavy drag on a big fish, the braid will dig into itself and get caught. I had this happen once and if my buddy wasn't there, I would have been gone! lol

Don't buy a 50 for beach fishing, for a boat it works. For the beach, don't go smaller than an 80w. I owned a 50/80 (70 class) Alutecnos Albacore and I got dumped by a big hammer (locked drag with preset locked too!) and from that moment on, nothing smaller than an 80!

After talking to avet I convinced them to upgrade me to an 80w.I guess they felt at fault and maybe since a little false advertisement. I was all about having a real that only weighed 67 oz. lol the 80W will be fishing later this week.

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Topic starter Posted : 09/16/2011 7:25 pm
(@rippinlipsoff)
New Member

I agree that the reel is capable of it. NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

I had almost 750 yrds running 125 as a top shot.

I just what really bothered the hell out of me was how the claimed it holds 2000 yards of 100 lb braid.When I got my reel i was like eh.. it's tiny it wont hold half of that.

here is some food for thought.

Penn 9/0 held 1000 yards of 100 lb braid

avet exw 50 550 yards and was almost 3/4 of the way full

I got rid of it because I felt like i was cheated and felt i was downgraded in size big time.

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Topic starter Posted : 09/16/2011 7:29 pm
(@sharkerfromst-pete)
Honorable Member

It's not possible to hold onto a rod that has a 100 pounds of drag.

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Posted : 09/17/2011 3:38 am
(@diesel-sharker)
New Member

I got rid of it because I felt like i was cheated and felt i was downgraded in size big time.

Lets do some math...

Avet 50w holds 950 yards of 50lb mono. The diameter of 50lb mono is .028". Mutiply the yardage by the diameter of the line and you get a total reel capacity of 26.6.

The diameter of JB hollow 100lb is .017". So we take 26.6 / .017" and end up with 1,564 yards of line. How do you feel cheated by a reel that has over 50lbs of drag and holds over 1500 yards of 100lb braid? Not many fish are going to beat you with that kind of setup.

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Posted : 09/17/2011 6:56 am
(@monoxide)
Noble Member

cody it is possiable to hold a rod with 100lbs of drag. i have done it, mino1 did it and does it every tie he fishes ad dantheman does it.


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Posted : 09/17/2011 7:10 am
(@slasherx4)
Noble Member

I fish my reel in freespool clicker and let the shark thinks he has popped me off and let him pick up another bait and have him fought on 2 rods with 50lbs of drag, do the math that's like 100lbs of drag without the strain on your outfit or your body :lol: just kidding guys, sharks aren't like certain billfish, I have never seen a shark pick up more than one bait.

Just an average fisherman.

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Posted : 09/17/2011 8:33 am
(@rippinlipsoff)
New Member

I got rid of it because I felt like i was cheated and felt i was downgraded in size big time.

Lets do some math...

Avet 50w holds 950 yards of 50lb mono. The diameter of 50lb mono is .028". Mutiply the yardage by the diameter of the line and you get a total reel capacity of 26.6.

The diameter of JB hollow 100lb is .017". So we take 26.6 / .017" and end up with 1,564 yards of line. How do you feel cheated by a reel that has over 50lbs of drag and holds over 1500 yards of 100lb braid? Not many fish are going to beat you with that kind of setup.

the reel does not hold that much line.I dont care what anyone says. your math adds up put when put to the test it doesnt stick. you get 1500 yards of 100 on the reel and then come talk to me.

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Topic starter Posted : 09/17/2011 9:37 am
(@diesel-sharker)
New Member

The numbers are right. Using the math I showed earlier, 950 yards of 50lb mono (.028") comes out to a reel capacity of 26.6. This is the number that Avet claims on their site.

My reel is spooled with 600 yards of 130lb JB hollow (.021") and topped with 350 yards of 100lb Sufix Superior (.039").

600yds x .021 = 12.6
350yds x .039 = 13.65

This gives us a total reel capacity of 26.25 which is a little less than the 26.6 I posted earlier...I am guessing because Sufix Superior is thicker than most other mono lines rated at 100lbs. The diameter of 100lb JB Hollow is .017".

Take 26.25 / .017" and you end up with 1,544 yards of 100lb braid. Numbers do not lie. You were either not packing the line on there tight enough, or were spooling a heavier braid than 100lb...Maybe the manufacturer labeled your spool wrong. Also, the top 1/4 spool of that reel will hold alot more line than you think. The farther out on the spool you go, the more line it will hold per turn of the handle.

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Posted : 09/17/2011 10:24 am
(@rippinlipsoff)
New Member

The numbers are right. Using the math I showed earlier, 950 yards of 50lb mono (.028") comes out to a reel capacity of 26.6. This is the number that Avet claims on their site.

My reel is spooled with 600 yards of 130lb JB hollow (.021") and topped with 350 yards of 100lb Sufix Superior (.039").

600yds x .021 = 12.6
350yds x .039 = 13.65

This gives us a total reel capacity of 26.25 which is a little less than the 26.6 I posted earlier...I am guessing because Sufix Superior is thicker than most other mono lines rated at 100lbs. The diameter of 100lb JB Hollow is .017".

Take 26.25 / .017" and you end up with 1,544 yards of 100lb braid. Numbers do not lie. You were either not packing the line on there tight enough, or were spooling a heavier braid than 100lb...Maybe the manufacturer labeled your spool wrong. Also, the top 1/4 spool of that reel will hold alot more line than you think. The farther out on the spool you go, the more line it will hold per turn of the handle.

I'm packing it tight enough. and it was 100 lb.

Mono packs tighter then braid 950 of 50 lb mono will fit. you put 950 yards of braid that is equivelent to 50 lb mono. it wont happen I promise that. The stretch in the mono packs down tighter allowing more line.

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Topic starter Posted : 09/17/2011 10:28 am
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