Killing some sharks may be a crime

This whole issue is beating a dead horse. The laws on the books so grumbling now anit gonna change a thing. The next target for us is the proposed bull shark rule. It's already being discussed so we need to concentrate our efforts towards the future. Catch and release does'nt say "alive" in it anywhere. I'll make a reasonable atempt to revive the animal but if he washes up dead he won't have my name carved on him thats for sure. The burden of proof lies on the accuser not the accused.Now on the off chance the FWC is standing there watchin me land the fish which I've never had happen in 38yrs of fishing I carry a small pocket knife that will release me from all responsiblity. I believe after all the leg work and petitions that I invested in preventing this law I can say I did all I could do. Nobody wants to kill a monster but it's gonna happen. Nobody wants to get fined............but it's gonna happen. Develop a plan in the event you do accidently haul up a dead or dying animal. I agree with Blacktip the commercial guys just dump the bycatch why can't we. If it does wash up make sure your names not on it.

This whole issue is beating a dead horse. The laws on the books so grumbling now anit gonna change a thing. The next target for us is the proposed bull shark rule. It's already being discussed so we need to concentrate our efforts towards the future. Catch and release does'nt say "alive" in it anywhere. I'll make a reasonable atempt to revive the animal but if he washes up dead he won't have my name carved on him thats for sure. The burden of proof lies on the accuser not the accused.Now on the off chance the FWC is standing there watchin me land the fish which I've never had happen in 38yrs of fishing I carry a small pocket knife that will release me from all responsiblity. I believe after all the leg work and petitions that I invested in preventing this law I can say I did all I could do. Nobody wants to kill a monster but it's gonna happen. Nobody wants to get fined............but it's gonna happen. Develop a plan in the event you do accidently haul up a dead or dying animal. I agree with Blacktip the commercial guys just dump the bycatch why can't we. If it does wash up make sure your names not on it.

All valid points but Jim(Kanemano) has an interesting point make sure it does not have your name on it,,,,,,,,,well if you catch a HAMMER and post it on a site such as this and a dead hammer washes up the next morning in the area where you caught yours there will be some whistle blowers that hate our sport and even some that say they are fellow shark fishermen that love to stir the pot and will be denouncing the SFSC our tournament (the Big Hammer Challenge)and this site.Its happened in the past and it will happen again.Like Carl (cmoney7)wrote each team of shark fishermen will have to perfect the One Minute Drill to try and improve the survival ratio of these magnificent fish.The difficult situation will arise when a big hammer after fighting a long battle comes in completely dead as we have seen on many occasions.Lets all hope that FWC understands that we all encourage and practice CATCH AND RELEASE.Oh and another thing ,,,,circle hooks will make no difference on hammers there death is caused by there fierce fighting style and may be caused by heart failure or oxygen depletion ,,,,,,,I dont know I am not a scientist only a concerned shark fishermen being over regulated pounded into oblivion.

This whole issue is beating a dead horse. The laws on the books so grumbling now anit gonna change a thing. The next target for us is the proposed bull shark rule. It's already being discussed so we need to concentrate our efforts towards the future. Catch and release does'nt say "alive" in it anywhere. I'll make a reasonable atempt to revive the animal but if he washes up dead he won't have my name carved on him thats for sure. The burden of proof lies on the accuser not the accused.Now on the off chance the FWC is standing there watchin me land the fish which I've never had happen in 38yrs of fishing I carry a small pocket knife that will release me from all responsiblity. I believe after all the leg work and petitions that I invested in preventing this law I can say I did all I could do. Nobody wants to kill a monster but it's gonna happen. Nobody wants to get fined............but it's gonna happen. Develop a plan in the event you do accidently haul up a dead or dying animal. I agree with Blacktip the commercial guys just dump the bycatch why can't we. If it does wash up make sure your names not on it.

All valid points but Jim(Kanemano) has an interesting point make sure it does not have your name on it,,,,,,,,,well if you catch a HAMMER and post it on a site such as this and a dead hammer washes up the next morning in the area where you caught yours there will be some whistle blowers that hate our sport and even some that say they are fellow shark fishermen that love to stir the pot and will be denouncing the SFSC our tournament (the Big Hammer Challenge)and this site.Its happened in the past and it will happen again.Like Carl (cmoney7)wrote each team of shark fishermen will have to perfect the One Minute Drill to try and improve the survival ratio of these magnificent fish.The difficult situation will arise when a big hammer after fighting a long battle comes in completely dead as we have seen on many occasions.Lets all hope that FWC understands that we all encourage and practice CATCH AND RELEASE.Oh and another thing ,,,,circle hooks will make no difference on hammers there death is caused by there fierce fighting style and may be caused by heart failure or oxygen depletion ,,,,,,,I dont know I am not a scientist only a concerned shark fishermen being over regulated pounded into oblivion.

I've actually post an video where they explain how hammerheads breath. Based on that youtube video they need to swim continuously, otherwise they drown if they don't. Someone also mention that, many shark needs to do the same thing, apparently hammerheads are more sensitive to this then other shark species. So, when they get hooked if they can't swim properly, they won't be able to breath properly causing the drowning then death, which is also the logical explanation why J hooks and circle hooks usage, won't matter to prevent death from breathing point. Although circle hooks may only prevent internal injuries, but not drowning.

Here is the post with that video: viewtopic.php?p=29155#p29155

I found a relevant link to some of the things discussed here, check it out:

http://aquaviews.net/news-around-the-wo ... y-reel-88/

It says that along with the ban on harvest there will be education for anglers to help increase captured shark survival rates... which suggests to me that you will not necessarily be criminalised if you make every effort to release a fish alive.

The video about commercial bycatch on this page made me so F**ING angry!!!! I recommend you watch it. This is why we as anglers should not be tarred with the same brush as these irresponsible A-holes, but also the reason that these unfortunate laws have to be put in place - the ocean is being raped on a daily basis and it's got to stop.

To all those who responsibly fish catch and release I salute you and truly hope that with the new laws none of us get into trouble for doing our best to release sharks alive and well.

hammerheads are very sensitive when it comes to that especially when you catch them because they fight exhaustion when your dragging them thru the water your still having water run thru the gills its when they are foul hooked that really hurts them because the water is not flowing properly and all sharks drown when dragged backwards thats why they cannot swim backwards. pretty much all sharks are the same except a few of the lazy bottom dwellers that are more scavengers but fact remains even when it comes to great whites they do a 15 minute drill once they put them on the platform and do their research and that is a very strong shark and even then they still have to revive them and keep and hose flowing saltwater thru their gills sharks can be very delicate even tho they are very strong and true apex predators the fact remains not many of us even keep 1 shark a year especially a monster unless they could be record which is very few but me personally im not gonna change how i fish i barely ever have a shark die during the fight and i walk them waiste deep to revive them as long as you are careful and try your best the case will not got thru and i know a lot about the system because i havent exactly been a model a citizen. we can change how people see us if the numbers rise rapidly even tho most people who swim in the areas we fish dont want to see a monster returned to where their kids are playin in the ocean lol

All is in vain. Useless for everyone except for the anus who wants to save the world by harassing others. In order to save an endangered fish we must remove the price tag. That includes tournaments. Hang a price or a prize along with the distant thought "I'm the best" and the hunt is on. We should not devalue our fish by competing with other humans over fish. The kill tournament in my area killed 6 mature tigers so they can prove to be better at fishing than the other guy. The perticipants went shark fishing for one weekend to compete with other people not the fish. The competition is with the fish. JiuJitsu is a great way to directly compete with another human but most can't handle tapping. As long as the asian's think shark fin soup makes there sex more potent there will be a price tag on the sharks. They buy them from the mexicans and south American countries who catch the fish that we manage. Those people are set in there ways, they still kill whales. How do ya convince 1/3 of the worlds pop that it's wrong to deplete the seas and kill the rest with nuclear waist.

There were many voices out there were they mention that this new law is more an international matter then local, but since florida lawmakers wants to be "as always" the model for others, they approve the ban.
The best question that i can ask is: If this law TRULY wants to protect hammerheads and tiger sharks, THEN WHY THEY ALLOW, THROUGH THIS NEW LAW, TO DRAG A LIVE HAMMERHEAD OR TIGER FROM STATE WATERS IN FEDERAL WATERS TO BE KILLED AND HARVESTED???
Do you guys truly believe the fact that more hammerheads and tigers are killed under the 3 mile state waters around Florida? Personally, I don't believe this!
Just watch, see and REMEMBER MY WORDS - DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF AS OF 01-01-2013 MORE SHARKS WILL BE ADDED TO A BAN LIST.
PLEASE REMEMBER THIS:
01-01-2011 BAN STARTED FOR LEMON SHARKS
01-01-2012 BAN STARTS FOR HAMMERHEADS AND TIGERS
01-01-2013 BAN STARTS FOR???
[...]
01-01-2022 BAN STARTS FOR ALL SHARK SPECIES???
...shark fish while you can, soon we'll be all doomed to go in jail even touching these fabulous animals - perhaps - they'll gonna go as far as laws surrounding manatees.

i dont believe it hammers and tigers are normally real deep water sharks and come in every now and then for food and mating tigers are loners but as for hammers they normally school by the hundreds or even thousands miles and miles and miles out. them believing that this ban is really gonna bring these sharks back is actually funny because its not us who is killing them its not like we kill all the ones we catch which is already not even that many a year. obviously when they see the photos of the sharks on here they dont think we return them.....

thats why this ban is so stupid most shark fishermen are catch and release only and might rarly keep a small blacktip for eating but everybody does there best to try to release and the hammers and tigera and other big sharks back into the water as quickly as possible and doing the least amount of damage as they can to the shark. its only the commercial fishermen that go out and kill all the sharks they catch and then they waste most of the shark once its dead

01/01/2013 ban on catching fish

the worst part is that that is a pretty accurate guess