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I haven't tried over 60lb drag - because i haven't had a reel that can handle more drags, BUT do an easy test.
Try catching a fish at 30lb drag on a 10ft shark rod, and do the same drag pressure on a 5.6ft rod. You'll probably be surprised which one will gonna be your "go-to" rod when comes to high drags. Again, bigger is not necessary better. I'm saying this because when come to talk about high drags, there is way more to consider, then just the reel and the line. The rod length plays an very important role as well. Then the type of the harness the position of the belt - if combined with the harness used - and not to mention knowing your endurance. It's pretty common NOT TO KNOW how much endurance a fishermen has in different situations. On my very first shark i only last 20 minutes and i had to pass away the fight to someone else, but few weeks later i manage to master the long-lasting fight without a problem.
That being said at 120lb drag, it better be an over 1,000lb monster to pull few dozens of yards, because at that drag pressure, the fish won't swim much. Let's not forget that monster fish were stopped on 16/0 where the drag all the way down is near to 100lb drag. And this reel gives you 120lb at full spool? It's like the power of an 16/0 at empty spool with another hundreds of yards option to play with.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 1:18 am
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Right but u think somrone can hold that rod and reel cuz I highly doubt it they can. Hold their ground


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Posted : 11/16/2011 1:27 am
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Under no circumstance can any one hold onto to a rod that has something pulling 120 pounds of drag on the other end.

been there, done that. boats suck


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Posted : 11/16/2011 1:36 am
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Right but u think somrone can hold that rod and reel cuz I highly doubt it they can. Hold their ground

I can't tell you that. Let's face it, there are only a hand full of reels that can handle +100lb at full spool were someone could test drags pulled by a car. And the price of these reels are over $800.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 1:39 am
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So then if it can be done why was the catching jiants guy even sayin 60+ lbs of drag while standinh up on the boat was ridiculous on a 900+ lb tuna where he had a padded gunnel to get under and still obly went barely over 60lbs of drag it can't be done from the beach and id doubt it can be from bridge or pier


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Posted : 11/16/2011 1:43 am
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So then if it can be done why was the catching jiants guy even sayin 60+ lbs of drag while standinh up on the boat was ridiculous on a 900+ lb tuna where he had a padded gunnel to get under and still obly went barely over 60lbs of drag it can't be done from the beach and id doubt it can be from bridge or pier

By the time i learn to master high drags hammers were pretty much gone from my area BUT i can tell you this.
I BHC i caught in plain daylight an 8-9ft hammer in 20min fight at drags over 50lb, no problem
Check out this post: viewtopic.php?p=22233#p22233
So, from a pier i know for fact it is possible, using the railings to use over 50lb drags. Yet, i didn't got lucky enough to hook into a fish from the beach to put that much heat on it - but that will most likely change in this coming up shark fishing season.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 1:57 am
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The argument isn't for 50lbs its for a 100+


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Posted : 11/16/2011 2:01 am
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When i'll gonna get spooled on my 50w i'll gonna tell you how that's gonna feel, since the drag is over 100lb when is near to empty spool. I haven't had that chance to be spooled - yet.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 2:05 am
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Nvm he bought a 14/0


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Topic starter Posted : 11/16/2011 6:15 am
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So then if it can be done why was the catching jiants guy even sayin 60+ lbs of drag while standinh up on the boat was ridiculous on a 900+ lb tuna where he had a padded gunnel to get under and still obly went barely over 60lbs of drag it can't be done from the beach and id doubt it can be from bridge or pier

I'm sure if he sees this he will chime in.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 8:36 am
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At a point it becomes a tug of war battle with 100+lbs of drag, I locked down fully on a 11ft tiger with 200lb braid with a harness and a 6'1 rod and that fish didn't take out more then 5 yards. I have it one video so yeah, it can be done. If you get one of those freaks of nature once in a while your line will snap or you will die of exhuastion but if you are able to stop it without breaking your line I assure you that fish won't move!

Ps. It's good to have a larger friend with you to ashure you stay anchored down, mines Sean O'brian and I doubt a shark will ever beat our duo(:


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Posted : 11/16/2011 9:43 am
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So then if it can be done why was the catching jiants guy even sayin 60+ lbs of drag while standinh up on the boat was ridiculous on a 900+ lb tuna where he had a padded gunnel to get under and still obly went barely over 60lbs of drag it can't be done from the beach and id doubt it can be from bridge or pier

Think about it, at extreme bursts a 900
Hammer can swim at 25 Mph while a 900lb blue fin can contain a constant speed of up to 50 mph for minutes at a time. Think about how much the drag increases the faster it comes off the spool, and don't think because 50mph is 2x of 25mph that it is only 1/2 the pressure. The faster line is being taken out the drag pressure is RAPIDLY increased.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 9:57 am
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100lbs of drag sounds like a good way to pull hooks - the breaking strain of your hook-hold in a shark's mouth also has to be considered :shock:


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Posted : 11/16/2011 10:06 am
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100lbs of drag sounds like a good way to pull hooks - the breaking strain of your hook-hold in a shark's mouth also has to be considered :shock:

True, but that's not the argument


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Posted : 11/16/2011 10:47 am
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I still doubt it I've seen my 400 lb friend be moved by a 10 ft hammer on 85lbs of drag on the beach and when people say they have video it doesn't really matter avets and every other leveedrag can be tinkered with so full drag is lighter just my opinion


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Posted : 11/16/2011 1:26 pm
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