High drags equal skiing is the number one reason i love everols. I can ease into these crazy drag numbers and not have to slam 100+ lbs of drag on a fish instantly. This prevents me from being drug off of piers etc. However, a few boats have made me close to water skiing but i held my ground. I agree with 80ws being overkill most of the time but when i fish my larger everols, only kingkong baits go on. Even then though ive caught for instance a 8ft plus tiger and he barely took drag. Thought it was a monster nurse as my 12 wore him out very quickly. My 4 everol is my primary reel i fish and is equivalent to a 30size reel and has no issues on 6-9ft lemons, bulls, sandbars, spinners. Braid has revolutionized fishing with lighter gear, there is very little need to have a 14/0 size senator when u can use a 50w and produce more drag efficiently and have similar yardage in line with a braid/mono topshot opposed to just mono or dacron on the 14/0. Star drags are inefficient and old technology
Amen to that!
Unfortunately not everyone understands the technology behind a star drag vs a level drag, and usually these are also the people who thinks that - bigger is better, which in my personal opinion is far from truth!
I had no issue whatsoever to horse in a 9ft hammer in BHC from a pier in 20 minutes at +50lb drags on a 50w. How many can do that with a star drag? Two hours later i got so hype about it, that on a second hammer, i snapped the line while the hammer tail-run on top of the water creating unbelievable splash. I put so much heat on that second hammer that the head was on top of the water without being able to sink - were - of course - my line snapped. I didn't felt bad about it, the fish had no injuries, but the splash was unbelievable, since the fish had so much energy left when was around the pilings. Things like this you can't do or see to be done with small drags. What can i say - a hole new type of fishing - i love it!
I agree with the everols being better for the fact of being able to ease into it and knowing exactly wat ur puttin on it but wat I don't get is why people barely 150 lbs are trying to use heavy heavy drag idk I like leverdrags but who can honestly hold 100+ drag
I agree with the everols being better for the fact of being able to ease into it and knowing exactly wat ur puttin on it but wat I don't get is why people barely 150 lbs are trying to use heavy heavy drag idk I like leverdrags but who can honestly hold 100+ drag
my friend fishes his 50 t rx full drag the whole fight.i know he rarely cathes those monsters that could pull him through the sand but he has a 10 ft tiger that he handled no problem
When you have a good harness and belt, or using properly the pier's or bridge railings, high drags shouldn't be a problem.
Some day I'll see one of these mythical guys that is fishing 100lbs of drag the whole fight lol. I keep hearing claims of people doing it from the sand yet I've seen more than a few fish being fought on these reels, and never anywhere near full drag. I just don't see a huge fish being successfully landed with 100lbs plus of drag that's too much a$$ for the tackle to hold up to for a long period of time. On a boat of course, especially a smaller one I can see it being done using the weight of the boat to end it faster or give chase.
Thank u someone who understands the logic in what I'm saying I would love to see someone with 100lb drag tied to a car just to make it easy and let the car go even slowly cuz that person is movin guaranteed that's too much drag be hobest with yourself u can't hold that unless your stapped into a seat or the peir lol
and since its 100lb of drag and he fights the whole time with it can he even dead lift a 100 lbs off the ground with his rod jw
I believe it can be done for a minute or two, but your not keeping that up for an hour. I've fished my 14 locked down in a full belt and harness, and after 15 minutes or so my back and legs are gone. I get the whole smaller reel higher drag is fun, to an extent.. Like Boghy fishing 40lbs that's a reasonable amount of pressure both on the fish and yourself. I prefer the bigger reels so If need be, and the fight is going to be a long one I have the extra capacity and can let off on the drag. Just my personal preference, I realize not everyone has a busted a$$ back like I do lol
I agree with u I've fought locked down on my friends avet and after about 3 minutes my legs and back were so tired it was ridiculous I prefer bigger reels so I don't have to strain myself or risk pulling a hook from using too much drag
Back on topic that 130 looks like the best of both worlds and I would love to have one!
I agree with u I've fought locked down on my friends avet and after about 3 minutes my legs and back were so tired it was ridiculous I prefer bigger reels so I don't have to strain myself or risk pulling a hook from using too much drag
Try this type of harness - will avoid all thous issues:
This is like sitting in a chair, and all your weight goes in that "chair" that pulls the monster. You can trully endure long long long fights.
P.S. I would use a 130 only in areas where are rocks and reefs, with straight heavy mono. The reel will be heavy as it is, not to mention maneuvering a monster fish with it for a long period of time.
We're in the Monster Shark Gear forum so I say the bigger the better. Granted 12ft+ sharks don't come around often, not every year, and not even every 5 years for most people. But when the day does come, you're either gonna be glad that you're strapped to a big reel or you're gonna be wishing you were. Most people haven't truly experienced being hooked into a giant hammer. An 11ft tiger is no comparison. Period. The mindset of many is that giant sharks are so few and far between that they rather use lighter tackle and have fun with the sharks. I've been there and done that. It doesn't interest me anymore. I'll ski those lemons and bulls in all day if it means landing that giant hammer. Even with my 14/0 on a clean beach I'm not so sure I can land everything I hook. Guys have been spooled on 14/0's with no signs of the shark stopping. It's not a myth, it's reality. There are giants out there. If you continue to have the mentality that there's so few out there then you'll never land one. Now if given the choice I'd rather go with two 80w's (spooled correctly) over a single 130 just so I can have two big baits out at once. I'll also say that I love my Senator 14/0 but will concede that lever drags are the way to go. I just can't afford em.
We're in the Monster Shark Gear forum so I say the bigger the better. Granted 12ft+ sharks don't come around often, not every year, and not even every 5 years for most people. But when the day does come, you're either gonna be glad that you're strapped to a big reel or you're gonna be wishing you were. Most people haven't truly experienced being hooked into a giant hammer. An 11ft tiger is no comparison. Period. The mindset of many is that giant sharks are so few and far between that they rather use lighter tackle and have fun with the sharks. I've been there and done that. It doesn't interest me anymore. I'll ski those lemons and bulls in all day if it means landing that giant hammer. Even with my 14/0 on a clean beach I'm not so sure I can land everything I hook. Guys have been spooled on 14/0's with no signs of the shark stopping. It's not a myth, it's reality. There are giants out there. If you continue to have the mentality that there's so few out there then you'll never land one. Now if given the choice I'd rather go with two 80w's (spooled correctly) over a single 130 just so I can have two big baits out at once. I'll also say that I love my Senator 14/0 but will concede that lever drags are the way to go. I just can't afford em.
Great post Doug, totally agree. Target the biggest fish with the biggest reels and biggest line you can use. I can drag a 9.5 lemon straight to the beach in less time than it takes to smoke a cigarette on my 12/0 and feel it is EXTREMEoverkill for every fish I have landed with it (so far). Still, that reel is asking to get smoked..not what I would prefer to target the biggest of the biggest but it is what I can afford at this time, I still feel severely under gunned for when the baddest hammers come around and that is where luck will have to come into play until I get some extra money. 250# or bust!!
Now I have done some crazy things to land a fish, and strapping into a harness on the beach with 100+ lbs of drag is something that even I am not crazy enough to do, even tied to a school bus. The tables turn when there is something on the end actually capable of pulling off that kind of drag.
I think we need to get a trx in CJ's hands.
I'm 100% confident he could pull those heavy drag numbers standing up.
I mean look what he did with an 80w and a car. He just about stopped it until the line broke! lol
You can fish 100 lbs of drag. I can almost guarantee the fish will give before you do as long as your properly equipped. I fish my 80w locked with 130 lb mono on a regular basis. no harness 9' gator blank 26 inch butt. I sit the reel seat on the rail and its time to do work. I had one shark pull drag. an 8' bull in a rushing current and he maybe pulled 2 yards of line off.After that it was low gear and time to crank I get close to 60 lbs of drag at full spool the numbers only go up from there.
Bottom line..
Cj test this theory!!!