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Look at the sport fishing mag link I posted they did a competition all igfa testing and the top like 10 knots are all with double line fg is the strongest single line bur broke at about 70% strength


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Posted : 01/17/2012 9:03 pm
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This is info is for thous who wanna AVOID busting the guides ring off of they spinning rod while shark fishing - DO NOT EVER USE ALBRIGHT KNOT WHERE THE KNOT WILL COME OFF WHILE CASTING - YOU'LL GONNA FEEL SORRY YOU DID! I had albright knot made from 80lb braid to 100lb mono, and let me tell you - it cost me 4-5 months to get back to that rod to replace the busted ring guides - the albright will act as a "HOOK" while casting and WILL PULL OUT THE GUIDES RING - WHEN YOU POWER CAST. To avoid that - there are 3 options - but its more 2 rather then 3, depends how technically you're looking into this:
Option 1: Hollow core braid to tie the solid braid to mono
Option 2: Sebile Knot (this is the china type criss-cross with funky finger twisting ) - pretty much waste of time, in my opinion
Option 3: This is my favorite - THE FG KNOT - as mentioned above >>> when you'll gonna master this knot - i won't be surprised to read kick ass reports on sharks caught on spinning gear - translated - this is the catch of successfully booming your chunk of bait way past the third sandbar - and reach thous midsize sharks.


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Posted : 01/18/2012 1:14 am
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Look at the sport fishing mag link I posted they did a competition all igfa testing and the top like 10 knots are all with double line fg is the strongest single line bur broke at about 70% strength

BUT, at the "Improved FG Knot" end up as the best knot, based on the same tests.
To tie the "Improved FG Knot" you need to make a bimini knot where IS VERY VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT the twists to be made 12 times - nothing less - nothing more - (that's also the best bimini knot strength for a true 100% knot strength), then make the FG Knot wrapping around the mono with the doubled braided line coming from bimini knot. I never went that fancy with my knot, but this should work great for casting since all these knots have very low profile.
Here are some links that makers more light on what we are talking about here:
This is - ONE VERSION - on how to tie the Improved FG Knot:
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniqu ... ed-fg-knot
Here is the full article of what knot are best - (some tests are note explained - i wonder why?):
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniqu ... -challenge


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Posted : 01/18/2012 1:35 am
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I love the fg on my casting rods like a 4/0 wide but my bigger reels that get paddled its all modified Bristol modified fg looks like the regular fg in the way of tying it but I couldn't tell like I said from pics if someone would post a video that knows how to do it I would be very appreciative seeing as I want to know that knot modified bristol is 99% strength so very good but modified fg is 110% and very very streamline


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Posted : 01/18/2012 1:45 am
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Look closer to thous tests - THEY DON'T MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FG KNOT AND SEBILE KNOT.
While the end result of the knot between sebile knot and fg knot are the same, they name the Sebile knot as being FG knot - not true.
Look on the youtube to see how a sebile knot is done and how an fg knot is done - ignore the end part of the knot - look at the criss-cross mainly.
It makes me wonder - is it true that a Bristol knot is stronger then a true FG knot? Hmm... I'll have to test that out on my own - since thous tests - has some fish smell in them.
There was a reason why they pull out the captain's video demo ( with the Improved FG Knot inventor) out from they website - he was shacking like hell. Was that a lack of confidence that everything that was stated is actually not true?

Logically speaking - an FG Knot OR Sebile knot - would create the SAME EFFECT - AS THE HOLLOW CORE BRAID that's used to tie knotless knots. SO!!!>>> that being said, if we look at the hollow core braided line that are used for knotless knots, we'll gonna see many people using "5-6ft" of this braid to connect the solid braid to mono, which means, that more FG Knot wrapps are done around the mono - stronger the knot SHOULD BE. Although, i can't tell as of yet - how many wraps would be needed to reach that 100% knot strength, nor the "Sport Fishing Magazine in 2010" did either but they seem to be more of a "FAN" of the Bristol knot where they did lay out different wraps number results as stated for the places 3-4-5 as seen here - sounds interesting no? ;) In my opinion - FG Knot needs to be looked over again more closely. It won't surprise me to see it surpass Bristol knot with the right wraps number.


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Posted : 01/18/2012 1:54 am
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Well they had a sebile knot on there and then had a modified fg so I mean they have two dif knots


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Posted : 01/18/2012 2:35 am
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Boghy I believe the modified FG knot is stronger than the bristol....if used with a double line. I have read it before a few times that single braid FG knots are strong but still weaker than a double line FG knot. And on either the bristol or FG the bimini breaks first. For example:

Single strand FG breaks at say 40lbs
Double strand FG breaks at 56lbs
Double Strand Bristol breaks at 50lbs
Bimini on both doubles breaks at 49lbs......means either knot is still the best choice. I just choose the modified bristol as it is far less complicated.


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Posted : 01/18/2012 10:52 am
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For a shark spinning gear i would use only fg knot to avoid guide busting issues, other then that the modified bristol is a good candidate when you want a quick knot.


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Posted : 01/18/2012 11:16 am
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REVERSE ALBRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted : 01/18/2012 11:20 am
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I don't trust albrights for braid to mono use em a lot tho for mono to mono


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Posted : 01/18/2012 11:56 am
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any knot takes time to learn to tie properly - if you try out some hollow braid or dacron and get proficient with it i believe its probably the absolute best as far as joining two lines together. once you have more experience with it you can do a hollow splice on the beach or anywhere working with what you have on hand - i trust them a lot more than i do knots (except for the FG,PR, and Sebile knot)


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Posted : 01/18/2012 1:25 pm
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I don't trust albrights for braid to mono use em a lot tho for mono to mono

with the reverse albright aint going no where dude trust me..... cubaneddy taught me how to do it


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Posted : 01/18/2012 6:07 pm
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