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(@tncars)
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When I joined the 80# braid to the 100# mono top shot, I looked on YouTube for a video that showed how to tie a skinny streamline knot that will pass through the roller guides the best, I came up with the Albright
After a couple of tries it turned out great but...will it hold?

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Topic starter Posted : 01/17/2012 7:04 am
(@railroader)
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A "regular" Albright in braid to mono WILL slip.

The "improved" Albright, with "6 out and 6 in" WILL hold.

But you'd be better off learning the FG... ;)

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Posted : 01/17/2012 7:18 am
(@blacktip)
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When I tie the Albright I wrap 7 times down and seven back up. Never slipped or broken on me yet.

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Posted : 01/17/2012 9:38 am
(@scout04)
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A "regular" Albright in braid to mono WILL slip.

The "improved" Albright, with "6 out and 6 in" WILL hold.

But you'd be better off learning the FG... ;)

The FG is a fantastic knot when tied correctly and is a much smaller profile than the Albright knot because you dont have to double the heavy mono to make the connection.
http://goodcatchfishing.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=33

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Posted : 01/17/2012 10:02 am
(@monoxide)
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i have used a normal albright o my spinning rods for big snook and reds and never had one slip. i have used it fro 80lb mono to 400lb mono and it held up perfect against my jewfish last year. i have 100% faith in all my knots i have 0 faith in other peoples knots when they are in my line.


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Posted : 01/17/2012 10:46 am
(@stellarol)
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Learn to tie it correctly and thats the first step to successful knot tying, no matter what knot you use. Everyone ties their own knots, but I will say that braid to mono you should have a bimini in the braid no matter what. I personally tie a modified bristol, not as strong as the FG knot but on either the bimini will break first and takes 1/10th of the time to tie.

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Posted : 01/17/2012 11:07 am
(@stevensj407)
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Again albright is a good knot for mono to mono there are better knots than that the modified bristol is 110% strength yes I said 110% strength look at florida sportaman magazine for best mono to braid knots they tied 30lb braid to 50 mono and the knot broke at 56lb of pressure use that knot if u want its very streamline but id agree the fg or sebile is more streamline and very syrong too ill post u a link for the sebile or fg when I get on my computer

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Posted : 01/17/2012 11:25 am
(@stevensj407)
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alright my bad improved fg was the 110% knot but never found a real good video and the pictures just confused me when i tried to tie it i have a video for a regular fg which doesnt use a double line and i used a lot and know is strong and the most streamline besides the hollow core connection heres the link for that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZjRw_BhXU

this is the magazine its sportfishing magazine my bad again my memory isnt always the best and heres the link for that
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniqu ... -challenge

albright is a good knot for mono to mono and all these double line knots are only as good as your bimini twist so practice it as much as you can i spent like a good hour learning the fg and modified bristol and testing it each time to figure out the best way for me to tie it. practice makes perfect and these two knots are reallllllly strong lol if anyone can find the modified fg video id love to learn it i just get confused by the pics lol

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Posted : 01/17/2012 11:37 am
(@scout04)
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(@scout04)
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Becomes pretty fast with practice - super low profile - very strong - no need to double the braid to tie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GCH6i5L2I&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-GSHrHEvs

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Posted : 01/17/2012 1:37 pm
(@stevensj407)
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I know how to do the regular fg knot but the modified uses a double line to tie I used the fg knot for a awhile but I wanna learn the modified fg cuz its stupid strong and the test even said the Bimini broke before the modified fg did

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Posted : 01/17/2012 2:20 pm
(@scout04)
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Here is my question to you and it is strictly out of curiosity. If you have 100lb braided line, you tie most any knot including bimini in it and it reduces its overall strength by a certain amount. So lets say a bimini makes 100lb braid break at 80lbs. If you have a knot like the FG knot that retains 100% line strength then why would you want to tie a bimini in the braid and then tie an FG knot which basically REDUCES a 100% knot down to an 80% knot because of the bimini in front of it?

I know how to do the regular fg knot but the modified uses a double line to tie I used the fg knot for a awhile but I wanna learn the modified fg cuz its stupid strong and the test even said the Bimini broke before the modified fg did

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Posted : 01/17/2012 2:42 pm
(@stellarol)
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Here is my question to you and it is strictly out of curiosity. If you have 100lb braided line, you tie most any knot including bimini in it and it reduces its overall strength by a certain amount. So lets say a bimini makes 100lb braid break at 80lbs. If you have a knot like the FG knot that retains 100% line strength then why would you want to tie a bimini in the braid and then tie an FG knot which basically REDUCES a 100% knot down to an 80% knot because of the bimini in front of it?

I know how to do the regular fg knot but the modified uses a double line to tie I used the fg knot for a awhile but I wanna learn the modified fg cuz its stupid strong and the test even said the Bimini broke before the modified fg did

Because a SINGLE braid FG knot is not 100% as it has been proven a double line (bimini being the strongest of all double lines) holds much better as single braid slips.....

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Posted : 01/17/2012 3:28 pm
(@scout04)
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ill have to check that out - most of the knot test that have been done with the FG, PR, and Slim Beauty knots that I have seen have never been done with double lines when they determined that they were at or near 100% in strength. Can you show me where you found this information ?

Here is my question to you and it is strictly out of curiosity. If you have 100lb braided line, you tie most any knot including bimini in it and it reduces its overall strength by a certain amount. So lets say a bimini makes 100lb braid break at 80lbs. If you have a knot like the FG knot that retains 100% line strength then why would you want to tie a bimini in the braid and then tie an FG knot which basically REDUCES a 100% knot down to an 80% knot because of the bimini in front of it?

I know how to do the regular fg knot but the modified uses a double line to tie I used the fg knot for a awhile but I wanna learn the modified fg cuz its stupid strong and the test even said the Bimini broke before the modified fg did

Because a SINGLE braid FG knot is not 100% as it has been proven a double line (bimini being the strongest of all double lines) holds much better as single braid slips.....

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Posted : 01/17/2012 4:19 pm
(@stellarol)
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I have found info on it a few times from tests done by GT fisherman, I have to try to find the links again. Also, you can see it just on that sportfisher test that the Sebile knot (same as a normal fg knot) both tested below the double lines. The sebile single line did test fairly well though, but is still weaker than a bimini (which is weaker than a doubleline fg)......

But honestly as often as most people do not tie knots correctly (in a hurry or just dont pay attention) I believe tying any knot correctly is the answer. Whether a modified bristol, albright or fg knot, all will suffice. I have seen old timers use standard blood knots and uni to unis and never have them give out.

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Posted : 01/17/2012 4:41 pm
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