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(@stellarol)
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I agree with boghy on the false advertisement. But this isnt the first reel with what appears to be bogus line capacity and thats what makes the internet so great. You can learn from others experiences and mistakes. But to answer your question boghy, yes I would rather have this everol than an international 130 or tiagra130...in fact id rather have one 14/0 or 18/0 everol than both the international 130 AND Tiagra 130. That is how confident I am in how superior overall an everol is.

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Posted : 11/24/2011 1:18 pm
(@boghy)
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Overall is all about how much you afford to spend for your favorite brand item but at least we look deeper into this to realize slowly which is what when comes to the reel capacity for the Everol 18/0.
If someone gets in love to use everol reels, well, you can't really force them to hate that right? :D

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Posted : 11/24/2011 1:32 pm
(@catchinjiants-cj)
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here is another thing to think about.

Several years ago AFTCO conducted a definitive study on the strain exerted on line due to water friction. The more line that is out and the faster it is pulled through the water, the higher the frictional force acting on the line. A mere 200 yards of 30-pound mono filament line with no knots, swivels, lures, etc. being pulled through the water at 20 mph exerts around 18 pounds of strain from water friction alone! The lighter the line, the more likely it is to break from water drag and the less line needs to be out to break it at a given speed (see AFTCO line tests).

When a hooked fish and a boat move at the same time and a curve, or "belly," develops in the line, the strain quickly exceeds the breaking point unless the angler backs off on the reel's drag. Top anglers will back off almost to free-spool to try to relieve the pressure, but truly fast fish like blue marlin may well break light line anyway — just from water friction. Even heavy line breaks if the drag setting is not backed off when a strong fish makes a fast run with hundreds of yards of line in the water.

http://www.marlinmag.com/techniques/fis ... age-2.html

So if this is true then the kind of setups we run like 130lb mono and 500lb leaders, I would safely say that are big shark rigs with 130 mono plus leader would put out a crazy number of drag with your reel on free spool. So if a shark is making a run with 400 yards of line in the water on are basic big shark set up at 20mph it would be up near 75lbs of pressure with your reel being on free spool... WOW :shock: :? So I am no math genius but 30lb line equals 18lbs with 200 yards of line 30 goes into 130 4.333 so it would be 4.3 times more drag on 130 right?

200lb mono and 800 yards of line in the water with a big hammer running parallel to the beach.... what do you think will happen????????

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Posted : 11/24/2011 8:20 pm
(@rory-shortt)
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ive always heard that the line in the water creates more drag but never thought it would be that much

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Posted : 11/25/2011 6:29 am
(@boghy)
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I think, if that's correct, we just solved the "mystery snag" - how many people said that at over 600-700yds there is near to impossible not to get snagged into something were your line would snap when you have a shark on. Well, maybe there was no snag there at all - just physics, like this one above - playing his roll in the equation were the line would snap at the weakest point due to water friction when the fish runs parallel.

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Posted : 11/25/2011 8:04 am
(@catchinjiants-cj)
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Pretty crazy. But like boghy said how many stories do you hear where people got down near half spool and the line broke???? I have done it myself, its very hard to loosen your drag when your spool is already at half spool. Natural instinct is...oh shit!!! I need more drag to stop this fish, but when you do go more drag off your reel, already having 6-700 yards of line off your spool, 95% of the time your line is going to break.

My main point is just because a 130 16/0 or this monster 18/0 can hold more line does not mean it will catch you more fish.

IMO when you have 600 yards of line in the water its to much. Not saying that people have not or cant catch a big fish with 900-1000 yards of line off the spool but the odds of any reel landing a big fish with 1000 yards of line in the water is slim to none. Especially MONO!!

Just a side note... braids thinner diameter to strength ratio allows for more drag off the reel.
New age braided line and new age reels allow less water drag creating a combo that can put the brakes on a big fish early in a fight with less line leaving your spool.... my point?? I would take a 50 T-rex over any unlimited reel ever made.

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Posted : 11/25/2011 10:04 am
(@team-hot-reelz)
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the way i would spool this would be 400 lb braid to 400 lb mono nothin breakin that shiiitt

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Posted : 11/25/2011 10:54 am
(@boghy)
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CJ, i have to tell you, i never pay attention to this fact till you mention it when comes to water friction. As many others, in the beginning, when i start shark fishing, i tend to believe that bigger was better - but slowly i moved away from that thinking. As soon as you mention that, all these stories about broken line etc, start to make sense in my head. So, basically what we have here is - long line mono combine with a parallel run, is just as bad as fishing with mono line around reefs - in both cases - they'll tend to snap. Oh boy. I wonder what others think about this.

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Posted : 11/25/2011 11:03 am
(@catchinjiants-cj)
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the way i would spool this would be 400 lb braid to 400 lb mono nothin breakin that shiiitt

HAHA :lol: there ya go!!!

Boghy I am sure it makes sense to a lot of people that have fished a long time. I know it sure did when I found that info and thought back to all the fish that I busted off. The all busted off at some point deep in the spool.

My recent PEI trip even after knowing this info I did it. I had about 300 yards in the water and was pushing my max on breaking strength as it was. A simple thing like the boat throttling up to make a u turn to go after the fish put just enough angle/ water drag on my already maxed out line to break it. I should have quickly backed off the drag a bit and I probably would not have broken my line.

Back to the post... I did not do the math but 1500 yards of 200lb mono being drug thru the water is a huge amount of drag.

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Posted : 11/25/2011 11:28 am
(@boghy)
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You don't have to do the math anyway since that 18/0 Everol doesn't hold 1,500yds at 200lb mono - holds "only" about 1,350yds at 130lb mono line.

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Posted : 11/25/2011 7:32 pm
(@stevensj407)
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If u go any reel larger than like a 12/0 its useless too much pressure breaks line you might have a mile of line but it gonna break I stick with reels the aize of 9/0 and use braid my 900h puts out 35# of pressure with full spool 125 yrds of 125 mono and 1100 of braid again like u said braif doesn't create as much drag in the water less likely to break unless hit reef

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Posted : 11/25/2011 7:35 pm
(@greatwhitehunter)
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Ok, so here is the big question. Where, or who do you know who is selling a used 18/0 Everol two speed. I am down for getting one when I can come up with the funds. More importantly what is a good price for a used one if found.

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Posted : 08/25/2013 3:12 pm
(@greatwhitehunter)
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Well I have the triple Big Dawg Combo now; The Everoll 18/0, The Accurate ATD 130, and the Dual 12/0W and am ready to go target monsters. In comparison thus far the Everoll is by far the biggest. The ATD 130 is the smoothest and has the loudest clicker, and the Dual 12/0W holds the least amount of line but can reel backwards. Now I just got to test all these Big Boys against the Giants of the Sea, and as we all know that could take years for the right monster to finally connect in the event it should ever happen.

The only one of the three not fished for me is the ATD 130. Will try in NC shortly. Will fish them all together with my luck 12/0 Penn Senator. I will post first trip something challenges my gear. Anyways just thought I would throw a quick comparison down of the three reels.

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Posted : 01/09/2014 9:13 pm
(@ncsharker)
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:lol:

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