yea so if he sits on tarpon and hooks himself and doesnt care that he is hooked he has no prob bear hugging a shark
He might not have a problem bear hugging a shark, however the shark may have a problem when its internal organs get rearranged when handled that way..and other shark fishermen who handle protected fish with respect who are given a bad name when pictures like these show up on the internet may also take exception. Those sharks look pretty roughed up. Instead of trying to make excuses maybe try carrying yourselves in a more dignified manner so the rest of us aren't prejudged negatively by the law and the public.
Agreed.
I heard endangered species tastes better? Just saying.
He might not have a problem bear hugging a shark, however the shark may have a problem when its internal organs get rearranged when handled that way..and other shark fishermen who handle protected fish with respect who are given a bad name when pictures like these show up on the internet may also take exception. Those sharks look pretty roughed up. Instead of trying to make excuses maybe try carrying yourselves in a more dignified manner so the rest of us aren't prejudged negatively by the law and the public.
Thank you Jon - pictures and actions like this give us ALL a bad rap.
Roping sharks over 3' up to a pier 30' in the air and then "torpedoing" them back into the water, bear hugging them, elbow dropping them, ropes around their head which go right into their gills - none of this is good for the shark or the reputation of shark fishermen. Just because you saw that shark swim off does NOT mean it made it - it could have just as easily swam off a hundred yards and sunk to the bottom.
This would be the equivelant to tying a lasso around a humans head - dragging them 30' under water - bear hugging them upside down for a while - and then throwing them off a cliff thru the air to hit water however they land and saying "well the guy swam off im sure hes ok".
Not cool stuff going on with this type of stuff to help our cause at all. All of this is even before you consider the fact that all of this is happening to sharks that are on a prohibited list. A wildlife officer wouldnt be able to make a ticket stick if you caught the shark on the beach or beached it after hooking it on a pier and got the hook out and released it - but the minute you hooked a rope to its tail and head and drug it 30' up in the air and over the pier railing you pretty much just got yourself a pretty fat ticket that will stick.
Yall need to stop complaining about these pictures. The sharks were fine I was there for those of you who wernt there you need to keep your comments to your self
Yall need to stop complaining about these pictures. The sharks were fine I was there for those of you who wernt there you need to keep your comments to your self
Nobody has to be there to be able to look at pictures and tell if the anglers are acting responsibly in the sport and respecting the catch they made. Sandbars, tigers, hammerheads, and any other protected species of fish thats been roped up over the railing of a pier does NOT look good to anyone and it does not look good for the sport you are representing.
All I can say is let fwc come over here and give me a fine. But not untill they search my freezer for a protected fish and they won't beable to fine me because there is none.
He might not have a problem bear hugging a shark, however the shark may have a problem when its internal organs get rearranged when handled that way..and other shark fishermen who handle protected fish with respect who are given a bad name when pictures like these show up on the internet may also take exception. Those sharks look pretty roughed up. Instead of trying to make excuses maybe try carrying yourselves in a more dignified manner so the rest of us aren't prejudged negatively by the law and the public.
Thank you Jon - pictures and actions like this give us ALL a bad rap.
Roping sharks over 3' up to a pier 30' in the air and then "torpedoing" them back into the water, bear hugging them, elbow dropping them, ropes around their head which go right into their gills - none of this is good for the shark or the reputation of shark fishermen. Just because you saw that shark swim off does NOT mean it made it - it could have just as easily swam off a hundred yards and sunk to the bottom.
This would be the equivelant to tying a lasso around a humans head - dragging them 30' under water - bear hugging them upside down for a while - and then throwing them off a cliff thru the air to hit water however they land and saying "well the guy swam off im sure hes ok".
Not cool stuff going on with this type of stuff to help our cause at all. All of this is even before you consider the fact that all of this is happening to sharks that are on a prohibited list. A wildlife officer wouldnt be able to make a ticket stick if you caught the shark on the beach or beached it after hooking it on a pier and got the hook out and released it - but the minute you hooked a rope to its tail and head and drug it 30' up in the air and over the pier railing you pretty much just got yourself a pretty fat ticket that will stick.
how do we know that every fish that we watch swim away at the beach lives? like the gigantic hammers that have to be revived for 25 mins before barely kicking away after an exhausting fight. yes we all get upset when something or pics like this pop up but are we here to cut down each others catchesw or are we here to applaud and offer advice when advice is due.i dont think all this arguing is ncessary.can we just offer some helpful advice? just my 2 cents
coty speaks the truth. granted the bear hug on the shark wasnt a good idea but its in the past we saw the shark swim off. he maybe retarded but he swam away. hammers die after being beached and revived like coty said. so there really is no differance. i know these sharks werent gaffed and were tail roped and roped in the middle of the body and behind the gills so it was supported all the way along the shark and lifted. if we had a way to lower it the same way and get the lasso off we would have done that but we dont have one.
The advice would be:
1)Treat every fish you dont intend on eating with respect, do everything in your power to bring the fish in quickly, release it quickly without harm or unnecessary time out of the water.
2)Walk larger (over 3') down the pier to release or use a net to bring them up and release them - larger fish thrown off the pier dont usually do to well after the fact.
3)Be respectful of the fish you are catching - give them every opportunity you can for survival - this does not include carrying them around, bear hugging, lassoing them and hoisting them up to the rail with ropes - show some respect to the shark.
4)Make yourself aware of ALL rules, regulations, and laws concerning fishing in your area - follow the rules, regulations, and laws. When you get your fishing license they will provide you with a book with all of the current years regulations and any changes made from the previous year.
5)Hold yourself and your friends accountable - if they dont follow the rules then dont fish with them - they will only make you look bad.
hammers die after being beached and revived like coty said. so there really is no differance. i know these sharks werent gaffed and were tail roped and roped in the middle of the body and behind the gills so it was supported all the way along the shark and lifted. if we had a way to lower it the same way and get the lasso off we would have done that but we dont have one.
The difference is when you treat the fish with care and respect and it dies then you know you have doen your best - when you give it anything less than that there is always the question if the fish would have died if you hadnt done __________________
or whatever. Just be respectful and give an honest effort to try and keep the fish alive - you cant say you are doing that by hoisting fish over the rail and laying them out on the pier for people to see and for cool pictures.
on the topic of piers...i had this idea to make like a big sling to bring a fish up and then lower it back down....like some aquariums use to move manatees and dolphins and sharks....
that would be a good idea coty. now get to workin
Been working on try to keep the crabs of the lettuce.
There is a big difference between a shark dying from the strain of the fight on rod and reel verses dying as a result of being BELLIGERENTLY mishandled. Also, to the guy who said we should keep our comments to ourselves if we weren't there..maybe in the future you should keep the pictures of these beat up protected sharks to yourselves because I guarantee the majority of people don't want to see that crap being broadcast to the world.
There is a big difference between a shark dying from the strain of the fight on rod and reel verses dying as a result of being BELLIGERENTLY mishandled. Also, to the guy who said we should keep our comments to ourselves if we weren't there..maybe in the future you should keep the pictures of these beat up protected sharks to yourselves because I guarantee the majority of people don't want to see that crap being broadcast to the world.
he didnt post the pics...